Safa and marwa mountains trabalhos
English: Looking for a logo that can be used as watermark in photography. Looking for something similar to Timberland logo with my name R.Bettencourt. Something related to landscapes, mountains and nature. Potugues: Quero um logotipo que possa ser usado como marca de água em fotografia. Procuro algo semelhante ao logotipo da Timberland. Com o meu nome R.Bettencourt. Algo que seja relacionado com paisagens, montanhas e natureza.
...drawing. I have attached a couple of pictures to this message and have included my logo. This will be going on a white tee shirt. I would like it to be full of vibrant popping colors. I would like an old man sitting in the morning smoing a cigar, finishing his cup of coffee remebering his past love, a beautiful woman that he worked with at a cigar factory. The woman in his remberance would be rolling a cigar on her leg. I would like the memory to be coming out of the smoke that he is blowing out. I would like either burlop bags of coffee by his rocking chair with a coffee cup on it or on a barrel or rock or stool, something of that nature. I would like the background to be similar to the example picture i attached to this message. Mountains, clouds, birds, etc. I would als...
NO MOUNTAINS. THERE ARE NO MOUNTAINS IN MY MARKET PLEASE SEE COLORED LINES IN THE ATTACHMENTS. THIS IS THE MAIN THING I WANT INCORPORATED INTO THE DESIGN I'm looking for a professional logo for my real estate company, Big Creek Real Estate. The design should incorporate a mix of blue, green, and white colors, and give a country/modern impression. Key Requirements: - Professional and eye-catching logo - Color scheme: 2-3 shades ofBlue (for a creek), 2-3 shades of Green (for trees/grass), White - Impression: A blend of modern and country NO MOUNTAINS!!! There are no mountains in my market!! Ideal Skills: - Graphic design - Logo design - Real estate branding expertise Please include samples of your previous work and...
...which will only be used in case of emergencies, as an extra layer of security for the riders, besides the existing emergency protocols. The riders will often be in remote areas in the mountains, with no cell reception or internet, therefor the app needs to be able to handle offline navigation on predefined tracks, which need to change every race day. Mobile App Requirements 1. Map Display with Custom Data: The app should display a map with custom data layers relevant to the user. This can be GPX files with Waypoints and tracks or a completely custom map file. 2. Offline Functionality: - Both the app and the map should be fully functional offline, ensuring accessibility without an internet connection or cell reception. The displayed map should be the one valid f...
I'm seeking a talented photographer to help me capture some personal moments in a mountain setting. Key Requirements: - Your style should be able to capture the spirit of the mountains. Think clear skies, snowy peaks, and serene landscapes. - Works should be suited for personal use, such as hanging in my home or using as digital wallpapers. Ideal Skills and Experience: - Portfolio showcasing prior work in mountain photography. - Understanding of natural lighting and landscape photography techniques. - Strong ability to capture the beauty and essence of a landscape.
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I'm in need of a logo...adventure caravan. The logo should incorporate the following: - Mountains, Compass - Circular and other geometric elements like a cube, triangle, dots, ... - Old self-made walking stick / Indian stick in the middle - River - The moon - Instead of the N - S - E - W I would like this letters: Z I J N - Text under the picture must be: bij Katrijn I'm specifically looking for a vintage design or minimalistic, and would like the logo to be in black and white. Ideal skills & experience: - Expertise in vintage logo design or minimalistic - Proficiency in incorporating geometric and nature elements - Portfolio demonstrating previous work on similar projects - Attention to detail and creativity - Ability to deliv...
...ratio, svg file format. The main elements (family and tree) should be on the left side of the image, and the right side should be relatively empty for my other website elements. Key Requirements: - Expertise in Photoshop: Ability to seamlessly blend the family photo with the new background while maintaining realistic proportions and lighting. - Understanding of Composition: A good eye for balance and framing to create a visually appealing scene. The final image should depict: - An Asian family (mother, father, and 1-2 young children around 2-6 years old) in a natural landscape under a huge tree/ with tree in background. without mountains or waterbodies. preferably a nice field with some flowers too. - A sunset setting, with the light and...
@@@ UPDATE 17.5.24: SLEEP-RELATED ILLUSTRATIONS/DESIGNS NOW WELCOME! But keep the focus on feelings of power and ambition rather than sleepiness please! 16.5.24 NO MORE MOUNTAINS!! Aroojnaveed4 will win this contest if anyone uses illustrations based on 'MS'/mountains/lightning signs. A 4 star rating does not mean you have a chance to win the contest with your mountain design - it just means I like your font and I will ask Aroojnaveed4 to copy it. I would like to see more totally new ideas please. I would also like to see more font-only wordmarks without any illustrations. As well as showing your logo on a plain coloured background, it would help to show it on a black pill jar/supplement bottle. Thank you. @@@ Welcome to this logo design contest for...
I'm searching for a skilled drone operator and photographer, ideally with experience in landscape and nature photography. The primary goal of this project is to create videos and photos of mountains and forests that evoke a sense of peaceful tranquility, conveying the serene atmosphere of these landscapes. Ideal Skills: - Expertise in drone operation is a must. - Strong skills in photography and videography specifically tailored to nature scenes. - Ability to capture different moods through lighting, angle, elevation and other techniques to achieve the desired peaceful and serene atmosphere. - Proven experience in landscape videography or photography would be a distinct advantage.
I'm in search of a designer who can help in creating a fun but professiona...Whiskey Mountain Labradors. I like the look of the logo I created but am not a fan of the greens and oranges and would rather it look more like the realistic colors of a barrel. I like the idea of silhouette mountains and an english style labrador in front. Ideally, I would want the focus of the logo to be the labrador but I am not experienced with logo making and do not know how to incorporate the mountains in the background with a larger dog in front. I am also open to other design choices as well that incorporate the barrel aesthetic and labrador. I will attach the logo that I attempted to make. Ideal freelancer: - Should have strong communication skills to...
As part of my project, I'm in need of an accomplished Photoshop artist who has specialized skills and experience in photo retouching and adding or removing objects from images. I have seven pictures of a house that I need to edit to make as pretty as possible. This is just a preliminary job, and if the results are good, we will work on a way bigger project. The house is located in a cold place in the mountains, so I want to convey a sense of warmth and intimacy. However, I don't want the colors to be too much saturated, or that it's clear that the picture have been edited. I attached one of the images, so that you can have an idea on the pictures you will work on
...business (children and adults)audience. Its primary role is advertising. To suit the audience and the serious tone of the advertisement, I'm seeking a cartoonish can be mix with realistic 3D style animation. **Project Details:** - The project involves creating a graphic animation video lasting no more than 50 seconds. - The goal of the project is to portray a fictional cartoon character inspired by the nature of Saudi Arabia, with a focus on key natural elements such as deserts, mountains, seas, and greenery. ( characters already drawn) - Local musical elements must be included to add a local atmosphere and authenticity to the video. - Distinctive intros and outros must be designed that reflect the project's identity and attr...
I need a professional and highly skilled 3D artist with a proven background in creating high-detail natural landscapes. - Required Environment: You will be constructing various striking landscapes which include mountains, valleys, forests, lakes, oceanfronts, along with a fantasy-themed island. - Level of Detail: The artist must be adept at delivering high level of detail in their work, with sharp, intricate textures and rich foliage to create a ultra-realistic rendition of natural landscapes. - Ideal Skills: Expertise in popular 3D modelling and rendering software, deep understanding of texture creation, color balancing, lighting and environmental effects. Previous experience in gaming or animation industry would be preferred. Your prowess in concep...
... The project includes thatched roofs and earthy countyside atmosphere. The project focuses on using alternative natural materials for minimal CO2 footprint. So all the architecture is also kept very simple with tilted roofs and scandinavian forms. There are 7 small scale buildings in total. Location is in Estonian untouched nature, near lakes and rivers. Previous experience with rendering thatched surfaces is important. Same goes to rendering boats and water. Good eye for landscape architecture is a bonus. Very limited time frame (5-6 days). The work includes: 1 aero render of the whole harbour 2 close up renders exterior 1 interior render. Renders have to be very good quality, also suitable for printing, very lifelike. No large trees and mount...
Project for Marwa T. Redesign some apps and websites (UI/UX) designer
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As a travel agent, I aim to provide comprehensive tour package services across a variety of offerings. These will encapsulate Adventure tours, City tours as well as Nature tours. My primary focus will be on destinations that include Mountains, Beaches, and Historical cities. Ideal Skills and Experience: - Proficiency in creating bespoke tour packages - In-depth knowledge of Adventure, City, and Nature tours - Familiarity with Mountain, Beach, and Historical city destinations.
I'm seeking an experienced graphic artist who excels in realistic pencil drawing. The primary f...in realistic pencil drawing. The primary focus of this project will be a portrait, so proficiency in human facial structures and expressions is crucial. Skills and Experience: - Proven track record in pencil artistry, especially in realism - Portraiture expertise is highly valued - Excellent understanding of human facial features and expressions - Experience in capturing likeness and emotion in pencil drawings Please note that while the project description did not include specific elements for the landscape, the ability to incorporate nature, such as trees, mountains and water bodies, could be an added advantage. The final output should be a vi...
I'm interested in hosting a contest for a logo design. Here's what I'm after: - A simple, clear, easy to read design. Normal styles preferred: no frills, no abstraction, no complex patterns. - Principles of minimalism can be applied, but the focus should be clear legibility. Designers with a penchant for understandable and simple logos would be the best fit. Please showcase your previous work when bidding. Your creativity and understanding of my requirements will be the key deciding factor for the winner. Looking forward to seeing your amazing designs!
...will be on exhibiting the grandeur of mountains and the tranquility of rivers. The desired outcome will be a realistic representation rather than an artistic interpretation. • Key Elements: - Mountains: They should be depicted in a way that showcases their imposing beauty. - Rivers: The rivers should appear calm and serene, emphasizing the tranquility of the scene. • Style: The project needs to evoke a sense of serenity, peace and calmness akin to the kind one experiences when in the midst of unspoilt nature. The ideal freelancer for this project would have: - Proven experience in realistic nature artistic or photographic representation. - An understanding of how to capture a serene mood in their work. - An ability to...
...features such as Rocks, Mountains, Trees, rivers, caves and natural elements like vegetation. This will help to create a realistic and immersive environment for the gaming experience. - The map must be topographically accurate, reflecting the elevations and contours of the terrain in a visually appealing manner, that is not flat but really hard to navigate with thick vegetation and small canals for walking. - The final deliverable should be in a format compatible with game development software, ensuring seamless integration into the gaming environment. Ideal Skills: - Proficiency in 3D modeling and map design, particularly with topographic maps - Experience creating detailed, realistic environments for gaming or similar purposes - Knowledge of ...
...company offering hiking and bicycle touring, I'm in need of a creative and experienced logo designer to help capture our spirit. Key project requirements include: - The logo theme should feature a background of mountains with imagery of cyclists and hikers to represent our key activities. - No specific color is required, allowing you to use your creative judgement. - Though style/genre for the logo isn't explicitly stated, we are an adventure company, thus implying a blend of minimalism and boldness. Ideal skills and experience for this task: - Portfolio of past work in logo design, preferably in the adventure or outdoor sector. - Strong ability to translate given elements (mountain, cyclist, hikers) into a cohesive, compelling logo....
I'd like to request a quote for "Alslam alykom, Dear Mrs. Marwa, As discussed we will work with each other on the following basis: - Monthly Salary of 500 USD per month - Bonus of 100 USD per month depending on performance The initial work will be for 1 week (125 USD). A Non-Disclosure Agreement will need to be signed. The work will consist of UI/UX for a SAAS company. Can you kindly confirm the above is acceptable. Regards and alsalam alykom, Hussam". My budget is $30 - 250USD.
...from Thailand. The water must meet the highest quality standards and be bottled in specific packaging. Key Requirements: - The water must be genuinely sourced from a valley well or mountains, as I need a premium, authentic product. - I need two different packaging sizes: 600mlx24 and 1.5Lx6. - The water should be naturally rich in minerals, embodying the essence of pure spring water. Skills & Experience: - Experience with sourcing and importing premium bottled water. - Familiarity with the mineral water industry and quality standards. - Strong communication skills to negotiate with suppliers and ensure quality control. - Knowledge of the Thai market and potential suppliers. - Ability to handle logistics for importing and di...
...from Thailand. The water must meet the highest quality standards and be bottled in specific packaging. Key Requirements: - The water must be genuinely sourced from a valley well or mountains, as I need a premium, authentic product. - I need two different packaging sizes: 600mlx24 and 1.5Lx6. - The water should be naturally rich in minerals, embodying the essence of pure spring water. Skills & Experience: - Experience with sourcing and importing premium bottled water. - Familiarity with the mineral water industry and quality standards. - Strong communication skills to negotiate with suppliers and ensure quality control. - Knowledge of the Thai market and potential suppliers. - Ability to handle logistics for importing and di...
I am looking for a professional logo designer to create a camping-themed logo fo...feature a cartoon character (I already have the cartoon, chek in attach files) surrounded by elements relating to nature and camping. The camping name is: Camping de la Grande Verge Key Points: - The color scheme in relation with my cartoon - Dont need the Dj Mixer of the cartoon - The cartoon character should be creatively incorporated into the logo and around it, the design should represent different facets of camping. This includes trees and mountains, campfire and marshmallows, and a tent with a sleeping bag in the design. - Although I have given some direction, I'm also looking for creativity. I leave part of the design details up to you – to add a ...
I am in need of an illustrator who can create a detailed, illustrated map for my novel. This map should cater to both the artistic and informational needs. Here's what I'm looking for: - Emphasize On Geographic Landmarks: Illustrate the geographic landmarks of my fictitious world, making them standout and aesthetic. - Detailing Topographical Features: The map needs to go beyond simple place-holding, and delve into the topography of the landscape. This will include mountains, valleys, terrains etc. Ideal Experience & Skills: - Map Illustration: Past experience in creating illustrated maps. - Cartography: Understanding of geographical principles to ensure map accuracy. - Detail-oriented: Attention to detail is crucial to capture all the topograp...
I'm seeking a graphic designer to create a logo for my business, Twin Creeks. The lo...create a logo for my business, Twin Creeks. The logo needs to incorporate a dominant image of a Sambar Stag aligned with my unique selling proposition - Exclusive Sambar Hunts. Key Elements Required: - Sambar Stag (Primary Element) - Mountains - River Logo Requirements: - Minimalistic Style - Black and white color scheme - Must depict a sense of exclusivity Ideal Skills & Experience: - Graphic Design - Expert Level Adobe Illustrator or any professional design software - Experience in wildlife and natural landscapes design - Proficient in modern and minimalistic design styles - Proven track record of high-quality logo design. Please provide a portfolio of re...
I'm lo...suitable for a small (10x8 inches) format as it will cover both pages of the book which is 5x8 inches. Specific elements to be included: - Mountains and rivers - Cities and borders A brief: so the plot is set in a dystopian future where half the world is underwater due to rapid rise in sea levels. The focus is on India which itself is divided into 3 parts. The surrounding countries will have minimal detailing. The ideal freelancer for this project should have: - Strong portfolio in illustration, especially in a vintage style - Experience in creating maps or similar detailed illustrations - The ability to work in black and white - Excellent attention to detail and ability to capture a theme Applicants should be prepared to provide samples...
I need a logo and a website background (wall paper) images for my Property Management Business (Harvard House) For the background image my idea is to create an image similar to the monopoly board, but with names of streets and places in Albuquerque. The most prominent and focused square on the board should be the one labeled Harvard (1) It'd be the square first or second to the right of the corner. (see pic). I'd also would like the board to be angled much like in the pic. If you have a better idea to that angle, I'm open to better ideas to make the Harvard square pop. I was also thinking that maybe only 2/3 or less of the board is visible? Like only the top left down 2/3 to the bottom right visible?(does that make sense?) This will be a background f...
My company urgently needs an experienced digital marketer to maximize our online presence and reach B2C consumers. We're aiming to drive website traffic, increase brand awareness and generate leads. The right person for this project will have a knack for capturing target audience interest and the ability to leverage: - Social media platforms: You'll employ effective strategies to engage our audience, expand our footprint, and drive traffic to our site. - Email marketing: We're excited about creating compelling content that encourages readers to visit and revisits our site, eventually converting them into customers. - SEO expertise: Ranking higher on search engines is critical to us. You should be able to optimize our site for search eng...
...am seeking experts who can design and implement a comprehensive water management system in SSC Khatumo state of Somalia, which spans over 210,000 square km. The right candidate will have the following skills and expertise: - Proficiency in traditional and mechanized well-digging methods. - Experience in constructing comprehensive rainwater harvesting systems. - Ability to harvest rainwater from mountainous and valley terrains. - Experience in constructing diversion channels, installing check dams, and building reservoirs. Your role will be to validate and execute a plan to dig wells and harvest rainwater effectively across the large geographical area. We need to leverage both traditional and mechanized digging methods considerin...
...goal is to start a freelancing career, and I'm looking for opportunities to showcase my skills and creativity in the field of photography. My services mainly revolve around: - **Traveling Nature Photography:** I specialize in capturing the essence and beauty of nature in various destinations. - **Specialized in Mountains, Landscapes, and Beaches:** Some of my best work comes from these specific settings, so I'm especially excited about projects in these areas. Ideal Skills: - Proven experience in photography (preferably in the field of nature) - Strong portfolio showcasing work in mountains, landscapes, and/or beaches - Good understanding of the technical aspects of photography I'm looking for gigs or projects that will...
I'm in need of a dynamic and creative logo design for my Real Estate Media Agency based in Northern Italy. The logo should predominantly feature the color blue. The logo should also incorporate imagery of mountains and lakes, which are iconic to the region I'm operating in. Key requirements: - Logo should predominantly feature blue color - Logo should be dynamic and creative in style - Incorporate imagery of mountains and lakes Ideal Skills and Experience: - Proven experience in creating unique and eye-catching logo designs - Ability to bring in an element of regional and geographical relevance into the design - Strong understanding of color psychology and its impact on branding - Excellent communication sk...
...ensure a seamless shopping experience for customers and efficient management for me. Key features that are essential for this project: - Shopping Cart: The website should have a user-friendly shopping cart for easy selection and purchase of products. - Product Reviews: An important aspect of the site will be the ability for customers to leave reviews on the products they've purchased. - Payment Gateway Integration: The site needs to be able to process payments securely and seamlessly. The ideal candidate should have experience in e-commerce website design, with a strong portfolio of successful projects. They should also be familiar with incorporating essential e-commerce features and ensuring a smooth payment process. Effective communication and...
LOOKING, FOR A WEDDING SUITE DESIGN *****PHOTOSHOP OR ILLUSTRATOR ONLY!!! ALL OTHER ENTRIES WILL BE REJECTED******* Wedding Invitation Set Information and Sizing Guide !!NO PICTURES ON DESIGN!! About the Wedding Our wedding is on a rooftop overlooking the city in a desert city with views of the mountains and downtown. It will go into the night so the ceremony will be in the daytime and reception at night. Link to the hotels website where we are getting married. A logo is provided but you can make your own. Couples Names: Groom - Robert Lockhart Bride - Deionna Adams Wedding Date: January 25th, 2025 01.25.2025 Venue La Perla Plaza Hotel Pioneer Park Address 106 W Mills Ave El Paso 79901 915-440-7666 Wedding Website RSVP Information
I'm looking for an experienced landscape painter to create serene, natural-themed artwork on large fiber idols for me. Your task will involve: - Painting serene landscapes such as mountains, lakes, or forests in cool tones like blues, greens, and purples - Working on fiber idols that are larger than 24 inches Ideal skills and experience: - Proficiency in landscape painting - Experience with large-scale artwork - Ability to work with cool color tones
...essence and promotes the ethos of my services. What I'm looking for: - A colour scheme of earth tones (green mountain) complemented by warm oranges and yellows. - The logo design should come across as natural and elegant. - The logo should incorporate the image of two hands, enveloping a range of gently contoured green mountains with a vibrant sun backdrop. Similar to the two attached graphics I generated with AI. I live in beautiful Montana, USA and also plan to practice massage therapy in Hawaii, so would like a design inspired by natural beauty. My business name is Big Sky Bodywork and my slogan is Massage Therapy for Every Body Ideal Skills and Experience: - Proven graphic design experience - Strong portfolio showcasing ori...
I'm looking for a talented designer who can create unique and captivating designs for a collection of t-shirts and hats. The design should revolve around the theme of nature, specifically showcasing the scenic beauty of Canadian landscape elements. Key Elements: - Rocky Mountains - Northern Lights - Trees - Wheat fields Ideal Skills & Experience: - Prior experience with nature-themed apparel design - Familiarity with Canadian landscapes - Strong concept visualization and execution - Ability to create versatile designs suitable for both t-shirts and hats I want the designs to capture the serenity and grandeur of nature, by intricately combining these elements together in a design that is visually appealing.
we are looking for a logo for our upcoming cross country (USA) family Vacation (CRIJANS 2024 FAMILY VACATION) a big part of our Trip will be Utah and Montana. we are looking for something fun that we can print on HATS t-shirts and Sweaters.
...something copied and pasted from the Internet, I want something really original that speaks of both IT and nature. I'm a professional photographer on the side and I'd like a little touch of that in my logo. I love mountains above all else, so I'd like to have a little touch of the mountains in my logo, if possible, when I talk about nature. - The color scheme should include Blue, Black, and White but feel free to add any other relevant color provisions to enhance the design. - I'd like a logo that I can use on its own and with my company name, which is: "Guillaume Allet - Service informatique".. I would like to receive a logo in : - PNG high resolution - The original AI files so that I can edit them - An SV...
...logo for clothing, signage ect. PLEASE SEE ATTACHED PHOTO FOR REFERENCE “STAWELL FITNESS” arched over the Grampians mountains. This is the gym name and text I envision- STAWELL FITNESS (Mountains and muscular person pictured) 24-7 GYM Grampians, Victoria - Predominant Colours: Red, white, black. Or all gold - Design Style: I'm going for an old school look similar to “WORLD GYM” in the attached photo - Fitness Elements: The logo should feature a figure of a muscular person with a barbell in the back squat position, atop or amongst a representation of the Grampians, my gym's unique location amongst the mountains. ?See attached photo of the look I&...
I'm looking for a logo for my bookkeeping business. The business name is “Mountaineer Bookkeeping” - I would like the logo to have the Appalachian mountains (which are curvy covered in trees/green not pointed) (see attached example) - an arrow running with the tops of the hills, a arrow that’s used to show an up and down trend (see attached example) - the border of the logo resemble exactly like the state logo with the gold and black. Instead of “state of West Virginia” have it say “Mountaineer” at the top and “Bookkeeping” on the bottom (see attached WV logo) The mountains can be animated in a way
...4WD vehicles equipped for off-grid camping (vehicles are Toyota Hiluxs and Prados). As a start up business, they are looking to capture market share from their competitors, who are currently booked out for the entirety of 2024. The primary target audience for this business will be overseas travellers – primarily from Europe, and the logo needs to serve two main functions: Incorporate elements of the Australian outback – with the aim to sell the experience of travelling Australia Serve to develop brand awareness within the Australian market, primarily through the display of the logo on the vehicles themselves, meaning the logo must be clear and not contain complex elements Primary Objective: Design a strong and memorable logo with a fo...
...for my brand. The logo will be used across both digital platforms and print materials. Key Requirements: - The logo must follow a minimalist design style. - It should be versatile enough to look appealing on both digital platforms and in print. Ideal Skills and Experience: - Proven experience in logo design, particularly with a minimalist aesthetic. - A strong portfolio that showcases previous logo work suitable for both digital and print use. - Understanding of branding and logo design principles. - Ability to deliver high-quality work within a set timeframe. Please include samples of your previous logo work in your proposal. Specifically, I am looking for a company logo design that can be used on business cards and a metal stamp design ...
Hi Amod S., Hi Amod S....the mountain that I want to have a couple of nice per agreement in price we will have 4 or 5 views of the home. This is a new home in the mountains, I will provide pictures of the area so you can place the correct trees and enviroment. The home is still in progress design and WILL have minor changes in the next phases. Expect to work on that as well, not major things but sometimes we try and don't like what we see. Access needs to be improved, also road and pedestrian access carved in the mountain. I am giving you sketchup model, but I also have full architectural plans , elevations, seccion and details. The sketchup is in progress, and we expect you to help us finalize it before render. We like renders like th...
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Hi Amod S., Let's work on this one now. Is a home in the mountain that I want to have a couple of nice renders. This is a new home in the mountains, I will provide pictures of the area so you can place the correct trees and enviroment. The home is still in progress design and WILL have minor changes in the next phases. Expect to work on that as well, not major things but sometimes we try and don't like what we see. Access needs to be improved, also road and pedestrian access carved in the mountain. I am giving you sketchup model, but I also have full architectural plans , elevations, seccion and details. The sketchup is in progress, and we expect you to help us finalize it before render. We like renders like the ones you can obtain...
